paul krugman, one, and now ben bernanke is pushing for higher inflation. is his real inflation target not 2%, but like 4%, 5%? if he could wave a magic wand, would he do that? >> they could have a secret vote. it would be in excess of three, for sure at least in the near term. the fed told us they would do whatever it takes to get what they want. they haven't exactly told us what they do or what they want. >> all right. what they want is a lower unemployment rate, isn't that fair? >> right. but they have lower unemployment in the price stability. what's going to happen is you're going to get fomc participants litigating the issue in public. like charlie plaszer yesterday talking about how policy won't be effective and charlie evans today talking about -- >> but they always do that. bernanke, that board is all obama appointees. and it's the liberal left keynesian board. it's an inflationist board. you as great economist and forecaster, right now the inflation numbers, they don't look scary at all. cpi, so forth, commodity prices, none of that stuff is boomi